Update September 1, 2015: There are now 416 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update August 9, 2015: There are now 397 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update February 16, 2015: There are now 394 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update January 27, 2015: There are now 392 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update December 13: There are now 367 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update December 14: There were a few duplicates from yesterday's post. There are now 364 names.
Update December 13: There are now 368 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update December 6: There are now 332 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
"My concern is that the leader of the Liberal Party has made decisions without (seemingly) benefit of consultation. In my view, he is acting like an autocrat, and I find that very frightening. I cannot, in good faith, support the Liberal Party of Canada under these conditions."Update December 3: There are now 330 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update Nov 30: Another comment:
"The way some elected officials are thinking is beyond belief & if it continues like this, pretty soon we will have no rights."There are now 322 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update Nov 29: Another comment:
"In an effort to appear “progressive” in his ideas, he has actually displayed some ignorance, as well as a narrow minded perspective about rights and freedoms."There are now 318 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
"He [Trudeau] certainly does not have ears that hear, eyes that see, nor wisdom to ever be a Prime Minister of our great country Canada."There are now 262 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update Nov 27: There are now 252 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update Nov 23: More comments from signers:
"She [Pat] makes an excellent case based on the very Charter of which Mr. Trudeau seems to have minimal and selective knowledge."...
"on the day after Mr. Trudeau’s announcement , as well as sending off a note to him, I also wrote to the Liberal Party of Canada and to my local riding president. Within a day of receiving my letter, I received a phone call from the riding president. We we able to have a lengthy and civilized discussion on the topic. I found his ears open … and although his direct impact on Mr. Trudeau is limited, I felt that my opinions had been heard and that they would be carried back to party discussions, at least at the local level.I am convinced that this is an important route for people who are in disagreement with Mr. Trudeau’s new policy - be in touch at the grassroots! If change is to occur, I think this is where it may begin - when members hear the hearts of their own constituents."...
"Please add my name to the list defending the Charter of Rights as stated, and not Me. Trudeau's convenient interpretation. Thank you (paying member of the Liberal Party of Canada, rescinded until freedom to vote according to conscience is reinstated)"There are now 237 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update Nov 21: Another comment I received:
"Please add my name to Letter to Trudeau. He has definitely gone off the tracks."There are now 232 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update Nov 17: There are now 225 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update Nov 17: Many people thanked me for writing this letter. Here is one such note I received:
"Thank you for initiating this. I am a "cradle Liberal" who was also a "card carrying Liberal" who is now re-evaluating her political views. While I find that I do not like what I hear from all parties, I will definitely not be in Justin's corner. He is not turning out to be our 'white knight' but quite the opposite. Please add my name to your letter."Update Nov 16: There are now 219 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update Nov 15: There are now 209 names on my letter. And we still haven't heard back from Mr. Trudeau.
Update Oct 16: Since I sent this letter to Justin Trudeau, I've received additional names which I've added to the bottom. I now have over 100 signatures. If you would still like to sign the letter please send me an email at email@example.com and I will add your name to the letter. In a couple of weeks I will send Mr. Trudeau another letter with the updated names. The more Canadians who voice their displeasure with Mr. Trudeau's attack on democracy, the better.
Dear Mr. Trudeau,
We the undersigned, are very concerned about your recent edict to exclude pro-life people from being candidates for the Liberal Party. We are also concerned that you say you are doing this, because you are a strong believer in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
We must confess, we find it impossible to reconcile the two.
First, our Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees freedom of conscience (See section 2(a) freedom of conscience and religion). This is a fundamental right and the Charter is very clear in that it promises that all Canadians have this right. This would include all persons who wish to run for political parties. How can you in good conscience, exclude people because their consciences guide them differently, than yours does?
Second, when some honourable ex-Liberal MPs wrote you, you dismissed their concerns because you felt the writers were "old men". This dismissal is also against the Charter, since your comments are both ageist and sexist, and so discriminatory based on same.
("See section 15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability).
Would you likewise discriminate against a young female's opinion? Or conversely, perhaps you are implying that you would only listen to a young female's opinion? In either case, this would still be discrimination based on age and gender.
If you do not agree with these men's arguments, I would love to hear what your counter arguments would be. Instead you chose to ignore their arguments, preferring to attack the speakers instead of the subject at hand. This is not helpful in furthering honest and intelligent discussions on any issue including abortion.
Finally, on many occasions you have stated that a woman's right to choose is guaranteed by the Charter. But this is not the case at all. The Supreme Court Justices in the 1988 Morgentaler decision never stated that a woman had a constitutional right to abortion. How can you believe then, that her right to abortion is guaranteed by the Charter? It isn't. Please see here for a detailed discussion what is in that decision, as well as what isn't.
We must admit we are very confused by your understanding of the Charter. On the one hand, you ignore what is clearly guaranteed in the Charter, and on the other hand, you invent something that is clearly not in the Charter and say that it is. With all due respect Mr. Trudeau, your sentiments are logically incoherent.
We respectfully request that you welcome all persons into the Liberal Party regardless of their beliefs about abortion and that you respect their right to vote in accordance with their conscience.
We believe all persons deserve the same respect regardless of conscience beliefs, of gender, or of age.
Let the people decide if they wish to vote for these differing viewpoints. That is why we hold elections. It really isn't for the leader to decide this. We believe this is what democracy is all about.
We respectfully request that you respond to this letter, and we look forward to hearing back from you soon.
|Alida van der Vegt|
|Anne Marie Powell|
|Bob Du Broy|
|Bridget Van Osch|
|Cathie Mary Butler|
|Chantel Drew Ward|
|Claude A. Brule|
|Deacon Rick Gervais|
|Deacon Wayne S. Lee|
|Donald Andre Bruneau|
|Donna J., Anderson|
|Dr. E. Letourneau MD|
|Dr. Joseph Clarke MD|
|Dr. Robert Walley|
|Elizabeth (Betty) Donnelly|
|Ester da Silva|
|Fr Joseph Kane, OMI|
|Fr. Autur Ockwood, MSF|
|Fr. Daniel Berniquez|
|Fr. Dennis Hayes CC|
|Fr. Hezuk Shroff|
|Fr. Kenneth Lao C.C.|
|Fr. Michael Weitl|
|Fr. Yves Marchildon CC|
|Francis J. Barrett|
|Gary D. Knight PhD|
|Gisele C. Pitre|
|Grace G. Brule|
|John Stefan Obeda|
|Jonathon Van Maren|
|Joseph van der Vegt|
|Joyce C. Allison|
|L. Jill Vince|
|M L Currie|
|Mary Ann A. Peralta|
|Mary Catharine Carroll|
|Mary F. MacDonald|
|Mary Jean Belford|
|Miranda D. Reis|
|Natalie Hudson Sonnen|
|PAULETTE A. ST-JACQUES|
|Rev. Mr. Rudy M. Ovcjak|
|Robert S. Anderson|
|Rosanne De Luca|
|Rose Marie MacMullen|
|Savio Leon DeSouza|
|Sherwin B. Peralta|
|Veronica von Neubronn|
|Vince van den Bosch|